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	<title>Comments on: the politics of organizational models</title>
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		<title>By: len</title>
		<link>http://nextreformation.com/?p=1640&#038;cpage=1#comment-27512</link>
		<dc:creator>len</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 15:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Liberating the Church Snyder reminds us that our word &quot;ecology&quot; is related to the Greek word &quot;oikos&quot; (house) and oikonomia (our word &quot;economy.&quot;) The whole world is God&#039;s household, and his ordering of it is his economy. Snyder writes that, â€œFundamentally, the Universe is not ordered logically,, psychologically, nor sociologically, but ecologically.â€ (50) Synder goes on to connect Godâ€™s rule to shalom, an embracing metaphor. He continues,

    Will we opt for technology or ecology? This is not an either-or choice, but a question of dominant models. Will we view the world essentially as a machine or as a garden? Will we see the earth as a factory or as a home? Will we opt for technology or ecology? This is not an either-or choice but a question of dominant modelsâ€¦ If the controlling reality is technosystem, mechanistic technology takes over and life suffers from being squeezed into the â€œclockwork orangeâ€ habitat for which it was never meantâ€¦. (43)

The clincher follows on the next page when Snyder writes that, â€œAs men and women become like their gods, so they become like their models. A machine model (a technosystem) produces human robots; an organic model (an ecosystem) produces healthy persons.â€</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Liberating the Church Snyder reminds us that our word &#8220;ecology&#8221; is related to the Greek word &#8220;oikos&#8221; (house) and oikonomia (our word &#8220;economy.&#8221;) The whole world is God&#8217;s household, and his ordering of it is his economy. Snyder writes that, â€œFundamentally, the Universe is not ordered logically,, psychologically, nor sociologically, but ecologically.â€ (50) Synder goes on to connect Godâ€™s rule to shalom, an embracing metaphor. He continues,</p>
<p>    Will we opt for technology or ecology? This is not an either-or choice, but a question of dominant models. Will we view the world essentially as a machine or as a garden? Will we see the earth as a factory or as a home? Will we opt for technology or ecology? This is not an either-or choice but a question of dominant modelsâ€¦ If the controlling reality is technosystem, mechanistic technology takes over and life suffers from being squeezed into the â€œclockwork orangeâ€ habitat for which it was never meantâ€¦. (43)</p>
<p>The clincher follows on the next page when Snyder writes that, â€œAs men and women become like their gods, so they become like their models. A machine model (a technosystem) produces human robots; an organic model (an ecosystem) produces healthy persons.â€</p>
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		<title>By: David Porter</title>
		<link>http://nextreformation.com/?p=1640&#038;cpage=1#comment-27506</link>
		<dc:creator>David Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 12:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Interesting how the macro mirrors the micro, or the structure the personal.&quot;

What should cause us to stay on our knees is the fact &quot;we become who we are&quot;.  In our attempts to re-construct new ways of life, we can&#039;t get away from the fact, we as a people are going to reconstruct according to who we are...  If pridefull then... If self-serving then... If humble then... If loving then...  Transform us Lord!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Interesting how the macro mirrors the micro, or the structure the personal.&#8221;</p>
<p>What should cause us to stay on our knees is the fact &#8220;we become who we are&#8221;.  In our attempts to re-construct new ways of life, we can&#8217;t get away from the fact, we as a people are going to reconstruct according to who we are&#8230;  If pridefull then&#8230; If self-serving then&#8230; If humble then&#8230; If loving then&#8230;  Transform us Lord!</p>
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		<title>By: len</title>
		<link>http://nextreformation.com/?p=1640&#038;cpage=1#comment-27470</link>
		<dc:creator>len</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 22:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, even when they become energized by demonic action .. one extreme to be sure but it happens.. they are part of us. Perhaps the more self-critical we can remain, the less likely that is to happen. Interesting then how the macro mirrors the micro, or the structure the personal..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, even when they become energized by demonic action .. one extreme to be sure but it happens.. they are part of us. Perhaps the more self-critical we can remain, the less likely that is to happen. Interesting then how the macro mirrors the micro, or the structure the personal..</p>
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		<title>By: David Porter</title>
		<link>http://nextreformation.com/?p=1640&#038;cpage=1#comment-27466</link>
		<dc:creator>David Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 22:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good stuff...  I don&#039;t know why, but I still feel there is much to learn and understand about our organizational model&#039;s.  I&#039;m starting to see them less as something we &quot;use&quot; and more as something that is apart of us.

Creation reveals God in maybe much the same way our &quot;structures&quot; reveal who we are.  They are not &quot;us&quot; but they were created by us and can&#039;t help but declare who we are.  So while they are not &quot;us&quot; they are very much &quot;apart of us&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff&#8230;  I don&#8217;t know why, but I still feel there is much to learn and understand about our organizational model&#8217;s.  I&#8217;m starting to see them less as something we &#8220;use&#8221; and more as something that is apart of us.</p>
<p>Creation reveals God in maybe much the same way our &#8220;structures&#8221; reveal who we are.  They are not &#8220;us&#8221; but they were created by us and can&#8217;t help but declare who we are.  So while they are not &#8220;us&#8221; they are very much &#8220;apart of us&#8221;.</p>
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